Sunday Discussion Group - Theory & Frameworks




Now that we are a few weeks into the programme and have had the opportunity to gather online for a number of Skype sessions, I think it's time for me to ask something.

Does anyone else feel as though our discussions (although very interesting) don't seem to really correspond with the topic listed on our calendar? 

I DO NOT mean this as a criticism as what has been discussed up to this point has been both intriguing and lovely. It's just that I read the title of the upcoming discussion in advance, I join the call and then... it happens. I'm confused! Not confused as in I can't follow the conversation, but confused because to me, it feels like the conversation has veered off of the set topic.

For example, this week we were to discuss Theory and Frameworks. We did start off with a brief conversation, speaking about monism/dualism and then touched on the mind/body connection while dancing. We then took off into a conversation about choreography/repertoire/direction and performance which lead us into expectation. 

Since Sunday, I have been replaying the call in my mind and rechecking the notes I took and this topic of expectation is resonating with me. Particularly since I can identify through reflection that I have been expecting one thing from the Skype discussions but I feel like I'm getting something else from them. Again, I'm not looking at this from a negative perspective, just an honest one. I sit and listen intently to the discussions. I have not yet found or created an opportunity to speak out. I have had many thoughts and ideas that would feel appropriate to add, but while waiting my turn, the conversation always seems to quickly flow into something else, making what I would have added no longer relevant. It's as Adesola said, an improvisation, and it moves quickly. You have but a fleeting moment to jump in (and you don't know if anyone else is also about to speak!) and add your thoughts! This is a process that I am hoping to get more used to.

Maybe I need to tune into these discussions with a different approach and less expectation? Just listen and accept where the conversation goes. For someone (like me!) who enjoys structure and layout, that's tough! I'm open to it though, so that is my new plan.

There was one area of the discussion from Sunday that,  in retrospect, I wish I had added to... the re-staging/re-setting of choreography.

This is important to me and as I see it, it all boils down to one word: INTEGRITY.

Re-staging or learning a past piece of choreography is an honour. Whether it's classical ballet repertoire, theatre dance or modern works, etc.,  it is a piece of artistic history that is being passed on and shared with the dancer. Keeping the integrity and intention of the original creation should be the main goal, in my opinion. I do agree that minor modifications can occur based on things such as the body structure and ability of the dancer, but the main objective should be to keep it as close to the original as possible. 

It then becomes up to the dancer to interpret, feel and perform it in her/his own way. The personal "stamp" put on the performance should be rooted in the dancer's connection to things like the music, the story, dance partners/fellow castmates, audience, energy... NOT by modifying the choreography.

Using the original choreography as a base, a dancer can then utilise their own "artistic license" to add to or deepen their performance. It's a case of having a solid foundation first, then developing beyond. Tapping into their "Je ne sais quoi"...

Now, back to trying to wrap my head around my AOLs!

Wishing everyone a lovely day...

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  1. Hello Natalie,
    I totally understand that sometimes the conversation moves on quite quickly and you feel like you don't have time to contribute. But if this happens, we are lucky that we can still further discuss the topics in our blogs.
    It can be tricky to know when to speak too. We do have those moment when no one says anything, but these are times that we can throw ideas in and see if anything resonates?
    Like with Web 2.0, we have to contribute otherwise the conversation will just stop.

    I think these discussions are a way to see a topic from another angle, it's also interesting to see how the conversation organically moves through different areas. Adesola did stop us at one point because the subject jumped. Sometimes in our heads our train of thought skips a few stations but the subjects are still linked.

    Like you said, it is up to the artist to put their stamp on the choreography, but to some extent that stamp can change the original vision of the choreographer. It does then beg the question as to how much artistic freedom the individual dancer has?

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    1. Hi Jacob,
      Yes, the blogs are a helpful way to carry on the conversations and particularly useful if you think of something post online discussion.

      Like I wrote, I realised ( ) that it is my own expectation(s) that is/are "throwing me off". The beauty of this is that I would not have realised that without Sunday's discussion. So, I really appreciate that I had a personal "aha" moment.
      The Web 2.0 and speaking out part is just a matter of becoming comfortable, I think.
      For me, it's a very new environment, coupled with the nerves of integrating and interacting with a new group of people in an area where I certainly do not feel overly knowledgeable - yet.

      Seeing things from other angles is so important and what I have been enjoying most, actually.
      What you wrote about "skipping a few stations but the subjects are still linked" is super interesting because from my experience, I don't think that is always the case. That was what I meant in my blog post. So right here, we have a great example of seeing things from different angles. Meaning something can make sense to me and seem connected and logically linked , but not to you and vice versa.
      I have realised that the bouncing around in the discussions is the way of sorting it all out.
      And I do think that what is said is always so interesting. I just wish there was more time to expand on ALL of it!

      Yes, absolutely! How much freedom does the dancer have is THE question.
      I just so strongly believe that respect and homage should be paid to the original piece. Otherwise do something new or inspired by...
      Maybe the only safe way to keep control of it is to ALWAYS have a trusted expert/authority oversee the staging? (Easier said than done, I know!)
      Ann Reinking staging Fosse's work, works. That's it! Everyone needs an Ann Reinking!!!!

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    2. Not sure why but my lightbulb emoji disappeared... that's the reason for the empty parentheses. :)

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    3. I think not feeling comfortable to voice an idea or opinion is a natural reaction to most dancers. In our training and career we are always told what to do rather than be able to contribute. Honestly, I don't feel comfortable speaking all the time because I don't want to sound silly, but it is something that I'm really trying to push myself to overcome.

      It's so interesting how people have different views from the same source. It has become more apparent to me how people seem to take offence to all sorts of things. for example in the news today, Manchester has been places into tier 3 restrictions, yet the mayor of Manchester is not happy with it. now I totally understand both sides of the argument, but government recommendation takes precedence, surely?!

      I would love to work with Ann Reinking! I'll second that! ;)

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    4. Very good point and a lot of it boils down to personalities, too.
      You definitely don't sound silly, so keep it up! Good on you for pushing yourself.

      It really is interesting to me, too. The older I've gotten the more I've become aware of that, but I think that's what makes the world work. If we were all the same, sharing the same views, we would just be robots.

      Wouldn't that be something?!?! ;)

      Have a lovely weekend, Jacob!

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  2. Hi Natalie:)
    I am so glad that you mentioned the word -INTEGRITY:)
    This is actually one of the main thing for me as a dancer, mover researcher either teacher to blend whole my knowledge and design new one with all respect to the past and previous sources from where i picked up knowledge and experience. Phenomenology is a quite good method for studying experience. The critic in all of us using a first person voice when interpreting the dance from our previous experience and our intuitive voice wants to be engaged in a most curious activity, putting bodies in a different relationship through different explorations and spacious movement which can bring us to our bodies and our bodies back to our minds. The mind also has a physical, bodily basis. Our body think, and it think as it moves and by trusting our inner intelligence, it speaks and bring us images in unpredictable way and taking from the knowledge whatever it need and integration from different sources brings body to mind in a more articulate communication and much qualitative dance class with fuller breath, improved alignment, strong self-confidence, smoother walk and steps, even less pain and dancing much better. This integration can be a really nice experience either for the teacher but for the student too.:)

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    1. Hi Sandra! Thanks for your comment. I'm sorry for my delay in replying - busy times! :)
      You have mentioned many interesting points and given me lots to think about. Isn't it incredible how much we know, but don't realise we know?!?! ;)
      Thanks again. Hope you are well!

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